Saturday, June 2, 2007

If nothing else, just listen to the logic

A lot of people who have left Eckankar are just plain angry. They were taken for a ride. They spent their money with good intentions, but were given magic beans. Okay, I'll let them vent. But if you really want to get down to brass tacks, just try to see the logic:

  • There is absolutely NO historical proof of Eckankar. If it really existed since the beginning of time there would be some traces somewhere. But there aren't.
  • Paul Twitchell plagiarized his original books on Eckankar. This is easily provable. Just compare Twitchell's books against those he stole from which were published many years before his books were published. Do you really want to follow an organization and its leaders who base their entire work on a stack of lies and deceptions?
  • Since when do you have to PAY to belong to a religion???
  • Eckankar doesn't make any sense. It is a collection of ideas and teachings from numerous sources riddled with conflicting information. It's not cohesive. Eckankar's answer to this is that you're just not ready to understand. That's right, you are an idiot for using your common sense.
  • Harold Klemp is a former mental patient. Come on! Think about this!
  • Paul Twitchell was a known compulsive liar.
  • You need to study the mind and its capabilities BEFORE you start believing in the Eckankar dogma. You owe it to yourself. The mind is capable of creating delusions that you will swear are real. Don't underestimate the creative power of your mind.
  • Take a good, close look at Harold Klemp. He is NOT NORMAL. Look at his eyes and the way he speaks with pursed lips. His cadence is sickly. His demeanor is ill. He is a sick individual. Any normal person can see this quite clearly.
  • Eckankar claims that all great people from the past were Eck masters or tutored by Eck masters. Isn't this a little suspicious. In many cases these claims are downright stupid and ludicrous because if you know anything about history you will know that those figures Eckankar lays claim to were horrible people, like Alexander the Great and Columbus. These people were butcherous.
  • Eckankar's writings are full of contradictions, ranging from disputes on Paul Twitchell's birth date to where a Living Eck Master is supposed to be born. The teachings say that they are born from a virgin mother. Besides sounding tiresomely familar, the last three Living Eck Masters came from flesh and blood, with mothers who had real names and fathers who worked for a living.
  • Secrecy. What can you say about secrecy. Secrecy is a sign that somebody's up to something that needs to be hidden.

6 comments:

rorick19 said...

Great logic. Way to Go!!

Unknown said...

Logic based on false information proves, what?

1) Eckankar does not claim it has existed since the beginning of time. Why would it say so when it is so obviously not true? What it does show is that the basic teachings and tenets have existed in one form or another throughout all religious history.

2) After many years of many people scouring the writings of Paul Twitchell, only 1% could be found to be the same as previous authors. Is "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" logical?

3) Membership in Eckankar does not require any payment. There is a suggested donation.

4) While this author thought he must be regarded as an idiot for not understanding, spiritual unfoldment is an individual path. We all have different skills and different baggage to work with. Self-Realization is fraught paradox and requires more than just common sense.

5) About 40! years ago Harold Klemp had an earth shattering experience followed by a very bad day which landed him in jail. Given the choice of possible jail time or being admitted for observation, he chose the later. He was subsequently released as OK after the observation period.

Need I go on? You should see the pattern to this authors "logic" by now, so I'll leave the rest to you.

Advertising said...

I dont who tell you that the membership in Eckankar require money.If you was really Eckist for 12 years,you should know that memberships are free.Don't be confuse between donation and membership.And even if Eckankar is not Good as you re talking about,i don't think that your association or group is better.Using such words ''idiot'',or other bad word just show your level of consciousness.Love to you

Advertising said...

I dont who tell you that the membership in Eckankar require money.If you was really Eckist for 12 years,you should know that memberships are free.Don't be confuse between donation and membership.And even if Eckankar is not Good as you re talking about,i don't think that your association or group is better.Using such words ''idiot'',or other bad word just show your level of consciousness.Love to you

Unknown said...

Advertising,

Basic spiritual law mandates that everyone creates and is ultimately responsible for their own reality. That holds true from airy fairy new age self help stuff all the way through to quantum physics.

Some ex-Eckist like this person create and perceive things in a way that, while it appears extremely twisted to us, is theirs to own, live with, and hopefully learn from.

There is no arguing with such ill-informed logic.

Kwaku Adjei said...

The teachings of Eckankar has helped me to be a better husband. It has also made my wife a better wife.